Facturation via Clemz

Hello,

For now, I create my invoices on Abby, but I admit that using Clemz’s invoicing module would make my task much easier. But one question stops me: what about the mandatory electronic invoicing coming in September 2026 or September 2027 depending on the type of company?

For now, I’m sticking with Abby because I know the software is approved for electronic invoicing. But will Clemz be approved when the time comes? @Clement

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the criterion is rather whether or not you are subject to VAT, not the legal form of the company.

In principle, this will concern all companies, even those with a VAT base franchise.

September 2026 for large and medium-sized companies and September 2027 for micro-enterprises. If I have correctly interpreted what is written on the government’s website, of course :smiling_face:

It seemed to me that in the franchise it was for receiving invoices but that for sales it was not necessary (logical at the same time since the point is to track VAT), to see if it has changed or if I’m talking nonsense.

Hello!

Thank you for this very relevant question. My understanding is that the reform only concerns B2B transactions between companies established in France and subject to VAT.

Indeed, I read here: https://entreprendre.service-public.gouv.fr/actualites/A15683
« electronic invoicing concerns all transactions carried out between companies established in France and subject to VAT »

Unless I’m mistaken, when you sell on Vinted, you are always selling to a private individual (you cannot ask for information about a potential business customer such as their SIREN, VAT number, etc.)

Therefore, it is B2C: sales on Vinted will not be affected by this reform. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Oh yes, that certainly sheds some light on it for me! Thank you very much, I didn’t have that notion of selling to individuals.

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Hello,

The e-invoice only concerns B2B sales, but e-reporting will be required for B2C: the goal being to recover VAT and reduce the black economy, the tax authorities must find a way to recover data and be able to cross-reference it.

Italy and Greece have recovered several million euros by launching it… And it’s not for nothing that retailers are supposed to have certified cash register software (normally mandatory for 10 years now): in Portugal, sales entered at the till are automatically uploaded every evening (we’re not there yet, fortunately).

Whatever happens, the state wants to recover this information, so even in B2C, the data will be declared automatically at some point… and even for companies not subject to VAT because I can assure you that we see strange things in some companies lol (and if an accountant sees it, I can guarantee you that with e-invoicing, the state will see it too because if we declare our sales, our suppliers must also declare our purchases since they are their sales…)

Regarding the terms of e-reporting, it is apparently up to the company carrying out the transaction or the invoice issuer. I am continuing to gather information on the subject because not everything is yet finalized at the government level and there have already been changes in terms since the first announcement of this reform.

PS for @Clement: Koesio ¶ and my accountant confirm that it is up to the invoice issuer to do the e-reporting, but there are still gray areas on this subject!

If it is up to the seller to declare it on the approved platform ¶: I hope that the Clemz sales extraction can help us to do it and I think that, in any case, the state will ask each party to declare it because it is far too easy to modify an Excel or a CSV… so they must be able to verify by cross-referencing the data…

Have a great weekend everyone!

In short, it’s another Rube Goldberg machine that doesn’t cause problems for companies that are already fully computerized, with barcode scanners, etc… but which will be hell for small businesses. It’s still crazy how they think Amazon and the small sole proprietor are exactly the same thing.

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Clearly, Clemz will never be approved for this kind of thing, so at best, he can either provide a summary of your sales to then submit to an approved platform that will do the e-reporting (and invoices?), or be connected directly to certain platforms (if the game is worth the candle :)).

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Ok, thank you very much for your answer. :kiss:

Afterwards, I went to look into it a bit, and I’m reading all sorts of things on this topic, so we’ll see when it’s actually implemented.

It still seems to concern VAT-registered companies, but we’ll see about the exceptions:

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Hello, even with the basic franchise, a sole proprietorship (AE) or a micro-enterprise is subject to VAT… They will be able to quickly and easily check if the thresholds are exceeded… in addition to checking for undeclared income or false invoices…

But yes, as I said, there are still quite a few gray areas…

I was about to forget to mention that there are penalties if no VAT return is declared: so you will have to check before its implementation (another way to collect penalties…)

BPI Site: Facturation électronique et obligation de e-reporting | Bpifrance Création

Regarding e-reporting

As part of e-reporting, transaction and payment data must be transmitted by the company carrying out the operation, via a platform.

This data must comply with the semantic standards published on the tax administration’s website. For example, we find:

  • the identification number;

  • the period for which the transmission is made or, for transactions giving rise to an electronic invoice, the invoice date;

  • the mention « option for payment of tax based on debits » where applicable;

  • the transaction category, namely:

    • delivery of goods subject to VAT;

    • provision of services subject to VAT;

    • delivery of goods and provision of services carried out by taxable persons established in France and which are not located in France.

  • by tax rate, the total amount excluding tax and the corresponding tax amount;

  • the total amount of tax due in France;

  • the currency;

  • the date of the transactions;

  • for transactions not giving rise to electronic invoicing, the number of daily transactions;

  • for transactions giving rise to electronic invoicing, the invoice number.

Electronic invoicing: penalties for non-compliance with obligations

Penalties for companies

Failure to comply with invoicing and data transmission obligations will result in a fine of:

  • €15 per invoice, for failure to issue an invoice in electronic format, capped at €15,000 per calendar year;

  • €250 per transmission, for failure to comply with the e-reporting obligation, capped at €15,000 per calendar year.

In both cases, the 1st offense committed will not be penalized.

Ugh, this is going to be such a headache again, it’s so frustrating…

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I understand you completely… I think the same thing, but it’s because some people cheat that those who do things correctly get screwed!

Hello,

A burning and very worrying subject. By researching on the government website, it is clearly stated that all companies are concerned without any exception. Basically, everyone will have to play the game (or enter a new, very tedious system :dotted_line_face: ).

You also have the option on the site below to complete a questionnaire to find out what your obligations will be.

But for us Vinted users, we will therefore have to use a platform approved by the government to transmit the tracking of our sales (e-reporting).

An excellent way to monitor us closely. In short, I will make a more detailed post on the subject and ask the community about the different tools approved by the government to carry out our

Hello, based on what I found in an article:

It’s called « e-reporting », but in concrete terms, it’s simple: your platform will automatically send a summary of your sales to the tax authorities. Think of your URSSAF declaration, but in an automatic version for the tax authorities.

This is NOT an invoice per sale. It’s a global recap: « this month, I sold X euros to private individuals. »

So, if I understand correctly, only e-reporting will be mandatory for us who only sell B2C.

Hello everyone,

I’m adding my small accounting contribution from my firm.

For micro-enterprises (whether exceeding the VAT threshold or not, that’s not the point here), there’s an obligation to receive e-invoices in September 2026. Go through an authorized software like Indy, Qonto, etc., to sign up for e-invoicing on their website and normally specify your choice on your impots.gouv space.

Then the September 2027 deadline: let’s focus on micro-enterprises on Vinted: an obligation to transmit revenue. As these are sales to individuals, you will need to send the famous e-reporting. This is still a bit unclear, the file extension must be respected. Authorized software or online banks should enable you to make this extraction and send it to your tax space (the platform created for this law).

And yes, it’s quite a mess, and it’s for control :frowning:

Courage

Mélanie

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I can’t see what else they’re trying to control since platforms already transmit a summary of our sales and we already declare our turnover to URSSAF. I can understand the electronic invoice for VAT, but for individual sales, I don’t see the point. Other than adding an unnecessary administrative burden……

They would be better off going after those who massively operate off the books without declaring anything, to the tune of several thousand euros per month, rather than bothering those who are trying to do things correctly.

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