PRO: other selling platform vs Vinted

Because to manage data, you first need data to manage.

One agent produces the ads, another sells them, manages offers, prices, manages transactions, Clemz is at the end of the chain, invoicing, returns, cancellations: accounting. Without them, management control can do nothing. Everything must be linked to your business account, your income/expense records.

You build before the management controller, who will then synthesize all of this, depending on what data you want to have, production data, type of article sold, sizes, number of cancellations, expense breakdown, margins, etc., you choose.

Hello Amande
Too bad, why can’t you vote? If you have a screenshot of what’s displayed, we’d appreciate it, thank you :slight_smile:

Given the conditions on Le Bon Coin, it seems tough now.

Yes, but since it never really took off there, I make a living on the side (I know it’s not good)

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Are you there yet?

I’ve started, I post a little every day but so far it’s not yielding anything.

The person must be in the Clemz Community => So their Vinted account must use the same email as their Clemz account with a subscription :slight_smile:

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I can’t vote either because since I was banned I no longer have Vinted, but I will vote for LBC, Beebs, Opla and Ebay

I only put a few personal items there. I used to put more, but people wouldn’t show up or would be 20 minutes late for returns, so I stopped. Generally, I give them to Emmaus.

I’m wondering what platform could be a good addition. Ebay… I’ve thought about it, but it’s still dead and expensive. Leboncoin is heading in the same direction.

Betting on a site like Vinted, Depop, a site that’s booming, where there are few items but consequently few buyers too. Not simple. I’ll check out Opla, I don’t know it.

I only put a few personal items there. Before I used to put more but for in-person drop-offs people wouldn’t come or would be 20 minutes late, so I stopped.

The Ā« sweet spot Ā» for LBC is in-person drop-offs, although it’s continuously declining. It still accounts for 7% of sales, and honestly, I enjoy it, especially when someone comes for one item and leaves with three or four :slight_smile:

I’d say I get stood up about 10-15% of the time (between 1 in 10 and 1 in 6 times). It’s not a big deal. My only rule is that you can only stand me up once, no second chances.

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I was asking him about Opla :wink: I signed up and quickly put a little bit every day. I don’t have much hope for it, but I tell myself I shouldn’t dismiss the future, and if there happens to be a sudden trend, at least I’ll be established and not starting from scratch. That’s also why I try to be a bit everywhere, even if lightly, because when a platform takes off, naturally those who were already there have an advantage.

I’ve been on LBC for a while, but lightly and without a pro account (it’s not possible with their conditions). Yes, I’ve completely stopped doing in-person sales. 1 out of 2 appointments canceled, plus those who start negotiating the price once they’re there, playing on the fact that you don’t want to have made the trip for nothing…

That’s what I often explain, Vinted has destabilized the platform market too much. As long as they only sold second-hand clothes, it was fine. But they opened up to professionals, allowed a bit of new merchandise, and diversified categories. And since they benefited from a big trend, they disrupted the established platforms. To their credit, they were the first to anticipate the smartphone invasion, while others were very slow to move away from their original internet model. Before, there was a trio that worked well: LBC, eBay, and Rakuten. We could sell smoothly on all three. Even if I had specific targets, like books/comics sold well on Rakuten, video games I mostly did on eBay, and on LBC I focused on everything for the home. And sometimes, depending on the offers, I’d switch from eBay to Rakuten and vice versa.

Now everything is struggling behind Vinted. The problem is that Vinted presents itself as Ā« virtuous Ā» regarding new items (it still makes me smile that a platform presents itself as eco-friendly and operates entirely based on AI, among other things) but has brought down platforms that were doing well. And Vinted’s customers also want new items; sellers find themselves forced to sell on Vinted to survive, playing a cat-and-mouse game. There’s really a very big problem with this subject.

Another phenomenon to consider: the retailers’ marketplaces (Amazon, Cdiscount, Fnac, Leclerc…) which compete with selling platforms and have overtaken them. Let’s be realistic, the bulk of the business happens there. And on top of that, they’re starting to develop second-hand sales. The problem is that on these marketplaces, we end up competing with large structures, and it costs more. It’s quite unsuitable for micro-enterprise status. At one point, I was discussing quite a bit with another seller who had the majority of her business on Amazon; she had a turnover 5 times higher than mine but ended up earning less than me over the year.

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yes, let’s say that in the south, respect is harder to come by. you can see it here, in class schedules, at work, on the road, etc.

But indeed it has a nice side to it, the original idea of the site :slight_smile:

Otherwise, there are also specialized second-hand marketplaces. I’ll look in that direction. Same here: it’s hard to compete with Vinted, but some are starting to gain traction.

I don’t know if there are toys, books, stamps, art supplies, or clothing, but specialized ones.

I tested those in my areas of expertise. It’s disappointing.

Book Village, for books, is following the same path as Rakuten: multiplying fees since mid-2025, including absurd ones. For example, if you refuse a sale for any reason, the site still taxes you its commission to compensate for Ā« its lost opportunity Ā» (yes, really). You receive nothing but you pay.

Book Village already suffered from numerous shortcomings, for example only accepting books with an ISBN, and not even those from book club editions. But even before taking off, it’s already weighed down.

Discogs, for music: a large global platform, excellent referencing, which allows distinguishing each record pressing. There is a certain amount of traffic. However, the fees are enormous, and hidden, as they combine the site’s commission and PayPal’s (the only possible payment method). Once you realize you only get 65% of the proposed price, knowing that your listing is in competition with sellers from all over the world, and that you therefore cannot try to set a high price, you abandon this site. It might be worth saving for very expensive, ultra-niche items that won’t sell otherwise.

There’s also Biblo, an American site. I tried it for a while, no transactions. I probably wasn’t approaching it correctly.

I’ve never had a buyer try to negotiate the price during an appointment, and I’m somewhat astonished. I’ve had buyers who didn’t have cash, and I sent them to the nearest ATM. They always came back.

Also, I never travel. Sure, I’m regularly asked if I can’t go here or there, like for an item costing 3€. But if the buyer wants to save on shipping, they can come to me. The annoyances remain, but they don’t have the frustration of having traveled and waited in vain.

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as 141 said, in the south, it’s a different life :sweat_smile: yes it happens, the last time I didn’t get a good vibe from the person (very unpleasant), I said forget it and turned right back around.

Once I had a guy who took the game and grabbed his keys to open the blister pack. He told me it was to check that the cartridge was indeed inside. He paid me, but at the time I wasn’t comfortable.

Hello,

For my part, already Leboncoin and then Ebay and Opla, I’m not there yet but it would allow me to test without bothering to retrieve photos or create the description text…

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Opla at least has the advantage of being very quick to make announcements. If only it had clients :face_savoring_food:

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For my category (clothing), LBC and Ebay are totally non-existent and unfortunately Opla currently has very little visibility.

However, it strongly resembles Vinted and has potential on the condition that it continues its development and opens up to Europe.

So for me, Opla is number 1

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Oh, things are starting to pick up, I got my first favorite last night :face_savoring_food: They are still far from taking off, though. I see on my category, if I could put all my listings at once, I would double the site’s stock all by myself.

On eBay, I still see quite a bit of live selling for clothes. And there are quite a few listings:

Of course, we need to see if it’s the same thing that works, not necessarily the same customers.