Visibility issues and sales drop

Hello,

They replied to me in less than 24 hours.

I advise you to continue sending emails, or try other known email addresses. Also, do not hesitate to contact them directly via Vinted in the help section.

No, I don’t think so. They know very well that Clemz exists and that the extension allows them to make more money.

However, I have now changed some of my habits:

  • I repost 25 articles in the morning with a 60-second time gap between each repost + I redo the photo modifications when reposting (only the angle)
  • When I open multiple windows to make modifications to the reposted articles, I do them 5 at a time, waiting each time for the new window to finish loading.
  • And I repost 25 articles in the evening, repeating the operation.

But how to redo an account with a single micro-enterprise siret number other than switching to a company

So,

I was able to download the data and there were quite a few reports from other members.

Reports of counterfeiting or replicas, however, this does not correspond to the date I was shadow banned by Vinted.

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It doesn’t even correspond in terms of period? By the time Vinted reviews the reports and confirms a ban

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Yes, so if their process takes a bit of time,

So if it’s a probability of a shadow ban, I’ll stop the rework for good :joy:.

In any case, thank you very much for the tip, it’s great to have all this data. but it takes time to download (21 gigabytes).

Welcome to the wonderful world of the kindness of some Vinted users. The fake reports are impressive.

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Hello!
Indeed, there is a delay of a few days between the report and the Ā« execution of the sentence Ā» :joy: I noticed it on deleted ads.

Right now, the drop in sales is because the site is down and inaccessible :slight_smile:

Personally, I feel like I’ll stop soon and go to work.

I created a second account with a second phone, etc., and I’m getting more views/favorites/sales on the new account with half the listings, much worse photos, almost no reviews, and no featured/boosted items.

My main account is practically invisible; whether I list 10 or 300 items a day makes no difference.

There must be something in the algorithm that causes this, but I have no idea what.

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This confirms a tweet from an American woman (I believe) who said exactly the same thing: Vinted’s algorithm favors new accounts. I myself have seen the rise of one of my followers (new account) who was selling a lot (same style of clothes as me at the same price or even more expensive) and who was surprised to see me relist my items every day… For your information, I have been on the platform for 6 years, I have 60 followers and often 0 views on some items.

I assume that if some people manage to sell well, it’s because the problem lies with us.

The mistake of finding an external error instead of questioning oneself is mentally easier, and one of the mental principles is the principle of least effort.
Another psychological effect at play here is the scapegoat effect, which is very powerful, consisting of finding an external reason/person to explain one’s own problems/failures (even if there are also external reasons, but they are of a completely different order).
Some even make a Ā« business Ā» out of this cognitive trait to vie for the highest positions in politics. And the worst part is that it works.

  1. You are in a difficult situation.
  2. Someone finds a scapegoat for you to explain this situation.
  3. They find an example to support it. (Very often an example that in no way reflects reality)
  4. Explain to people that this is the cause of your problems.
  5. Position yourself as a savior and say you will eliminate the problem, literally.
  6. People will vote for you.

Principle applicable everywhere, on Vinted too:

  1. You are in a difficult situation.
  2. You look for a scapegoat: non-professionals, newcomers, those who work under the table, buyers are idiots, the site works poorly, and so on.
  3. Find an example(s) to support it, either a post, a tweet, here confirmation bias, you will only see what goes in the same direction, without noticing that others work very well.
  4. You give up.

This is one of the keys to success: self-reflection, analysis, thinking, listening to those who succeed. I’m not saying it’s easy, but without it, it’s doomed to failure in the short or medium term.

1: type of items, 2: sales method (understanding how a site works), photos, ad content, and price, which for me remains less important than the rest. (psychological reasons)
Don’t forget that there are hundreds of MILLIONS of items online.

It is only logical that newcomers are favored to serve the site.

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It is obvious that there are visibility problems and that some are favored and others are not, and especially much less visible accounts. Besides, it’s not for nothing that the majority of people agree that it started around the same time and that it’s getting worse and worse.

After all, there are exceptions. When I see Friptadium, which gets 1 million views in 5 days of window dressing and announces a turnover of several thousand euros per month while selling Nike sweaters for €25 with photos of clothes on the floor, then there’s nothing more to understand in my opinion. With all due respect, it’s just to illustrate that for me, this site is a complete mess.

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Favored because they understood how the site worked. That’s all.

It’s not a visibility problem. You understand that not everyone can be visible, right?

Like a product at the front of the shelves in a supermarket, not everyone can be there. It’s physical. There isn’t enough space. Same online.
Not everyone can be on the first page, that’s all. And the more time goes on, the harder it is to be there.
If you have 50 products with 20 shelf-front spots, you can potentially rotate them, etc., but if you have 20 spots with a million products available?
The space to be at the front isn’t expandable, but the number of products is.

Some understood how the site worked, others didn’t. That’s all.
I didn’t understand before, I was using methods that didn’t work, so I told myself, some are working, you have to understand why, that’s all.
If you lose visibility and don’t change anything, it won’t come back on its own.
If you always apply the same method, you’ll always get the same result.

These aren’t exceptions, he understood, that’s all.

I tripled my turnover in a few months, after stagnating for 3 years.
I thought, analyzed, questioned myself, I read, listened for dozens of hours then implemented the changes that require a lot of work and it’s working, despite all the obstacles the site can put in our way.

An example again this afternoon where I can’t upload.

If you think it’s the site, without wanting to question yourself and understand how some people make a lot of sales, you certainly won’t succeed.

So… good luck

I have a story about those who succeed and those who are losers from the start.

4 years ago, for fun, I did a preparatory course for medicine, alongside my job.
You could say it’s a selective competition. I loved it and having the perspective of life, an outside view was enriching, in many ways.

And I saw 3 categories of people there when the results came out after a multiple-choice quiz:

Those who said the teacher was bad and that they had failed because he explained poorly.
Those who wondered why they had failed their multiple-choice quizzes, and how to improve their results.
Those who had succeeded, who had the right methods.
Knowing that everyone had the same teacher and the same notes.

(I’m skipping over the sociological conditions that play an important role)

Guess who succeeded in the end?

I saw some collapse, others fight, give their all, and succeed, and others give up in a short time (and not the least talented).

Same in sports competition. I’ve heard every excuse in the book, except the one that involves their responsibility.

For business, it’s the same.
Even for a couple, the problem is always the other person.

Okay, I’ll stop there, I’m not going to change the world haha.

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I noticed a drastic drop in visibility at the same time as everyone else. However, after generating €1000 in revenue over the last 3 days, I unfortunately cannot maintain the discourse I initially had. I retook a lot of photos, lowered some prices, and bought different items than what I usually sell.

I’m not saying it’s a miracle method, but I have to agree with the previous comment: either we give up and do nothing, or we take a step back and adapt.

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The problem is that you seem to have an answer for everything and you imply that I’m not trying, when I literally spend my days trying to figure out why I’m not selling (and I have to, as it’s my only source of income), but when there’s no explanation, eventually you just get fed up.

Your advice might be valid for someone who makes no effort or doesn’t try to understand, but I think I’ve always done relatively well since I turned professional (between 5 and 10 sales per day and about ten days a month with a minimum profit of €100).

It’s just that I’m not selling at all from one day to the next without having changed my habits. On the contrary, I’ve improved my photos, I regularly continue to add to my wardrobe, I’ve lowered prices, I’ve tried raising listings a lot/a little, used hashtags, etc.

Zero sales in 3 days with my professional account, and on the other hand, my completely run-down personal account makes two or three sales a day with terrible photos, no descriptions, and the same prices (and without a featured wardrobe).

From now on, I’m going to sell everything off, focusing on the quantity of sales rather than profit, but I’m convinced it won’t change anything because I don’t even get more than 20 favorites per day anyway (and for a wardrobe of 2000 items with 300 listing bumps per day, that’s really very little).

Edit: Or maybe the spam of republications via Clemz has burned out my account, that’s also a possibility.

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Not at all, far from it.
And I’m not preaching, I’m no better than anyone else, and I know that everyone works and tries to do their business and that it works. and we are here to help each other.

There are just many factors to take into account. And if you don’t integrate them, it won’t work. Some you can influence, others you can’t.

You may have succeeded in the past, but platforms and commerce evolve very quickly.
I’m speaking from experience because my turnover dropped by 90% in a few years. I didn’t understand, I didn’t look, I didn’t question myself, about my way of doing things, about the environment, about trends, etc. = I almost went bankrupt.
It’s like when you walk past a physical store and it’s always the same. it will go bankrupt, compared to one that renews itself, tests, changes.

I’ll give a simple example, the shape of jeans changed in no time. we went from slim to bootcut. in a year, products change, colors, shapes, brands.
plus the site’s function.
One year there might be a trend for a color, turquoise or red, and poof it’s gone.

It is now accepted, according to several sources, that new accounts are favored by the algorithm.

Moreover, I repeat, there is a saturation of Vinted, an overdose of items. which causes selling prices to decrease. Levi’s, a sure bet, sell much less well. same for sneakers, or Ralph Lauren, Lacoste, etc. there are millions of items online, how do you expect to be seen?

The only way to succeed for me is to be in a niche, really a niche, like Provencal tablecloths, Provencal clothing, to stick to it, not to have a jumble sale, to add new items every day, really every day, that’s not easy to maintain.

Underselling won’t make you sell if you’re not visible. and a price that’s too low isn’t good. it breaks trust for professional sellers, you think, there’s something wrong. especially with good photos: it’s too clean or beautiful to be true. If you see a nice Mercedes for sale for 5000e, what do you think?

Is your wardrobe coherent?
I also had 2000 items of all sorts. I removed more than half, I focused on a few categories, and I added items every day, not a mix of dresses, skirts, a jacket, a child’s polo shirt, etc.
I created an identity. people should say, this is the seller of Provencal textile products, or the seller of Ikks, or of suits. and that’s it.

I didn’t undersell my items, I removed them from my shop. I could have told myself, and this is the mistake I made for a long time, oh I’ll sell them, even cheaply, it would be a shame to lose money. big mistake. The opposite happens.
The more you want to reach a wide audience, the less you will reach people. Never forget that.

When you go to an Apple store, you don’t find windows or high-heeled shoes there.

It used to work when there were far fewer people. now it’s no longer possible.

Now I operate with 300-400 items online, and I sell 3 times more.

Find yourself a targeted, clear identity and you will succeed.
Less but better.

Send me your account in private if you want. I’m not saying I have the magic solution, but an outside opinion never hurts.

And don’t give up. :slight_smile:

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On my end, I’d be curious to see your account if possible. I’m always trying to improve, but I’ve been stagnating in terms of improvement for some time now. So there are probably things I’ve missed :sweat_smile:

Something to test if there haven’t been any sales in a while: buy an item yourself or ask a friend to do it.

With @Lucile, we suspect that Vinted temporarily boosts wardrobes when they record sales / deliver their packages / etc.
At worst, it costs you a few euros for buyer protection and shipping, but if it unblocks you, why not?

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