Le Bon Coin does not require second-hand clothing dealers or flea market vendors to be professionals. I am deliberately speaking of second-hand clothing dealers because it seems to me that they represent the majority of the second-hand clothing market. I see more and more second-hand clothing ads on LBC. As for self-entrepreneurs, you cannot imagine their number in real estate!!! As many as small real estate agencies. Who, on the other hand, are obliged to declare themselves as professionals on LBC and all other platforms.
Moderately agree with that, this market did not wait for Vinted to exist.
Sales platforms have existed for a while (eBay is from 1995) and even before that, second-hand shops existed, consignment shops as well, and flea markets. In absolute terms, even an antique dealer is a second-hand market. It’s a market that has evolved with the internet, but I’d say like everything else. Vinted, through a trend effect, perhaps gives it more visibility than in the past.
Yes, I know some in real estate with AE status, but they are not the owners of Foncia, more like freelance agents to help agencies with charges, based on what I’ve been told. At the same time, I don’t really see how one could run an agency with a turnover ceiling of €37,500.
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Well, from a legal standpoint, it’s forbidden, so it’s the second-hand dealers who circumvent it (I’m not criticizing, I used to do it too), but yes, LBC doesn’t check like Vinted does (but they do it haphazardly).
But there are categories where they ask you to go pro. For example, after 100 new ads for video games, they refuse new ads and ask you to go pro.
[quote=« personaewardward, post:18, topic:3621 »]on coin did it for real estate. And is the French leader in this field. Ahead of se loger. Knowing that 70% of transactions are done through a professional. Unless Vinted, after having snatched the second-hand goods market from le bon coin, also wants to snatch real estate and cars from them 
. On the other hand, in the US market, if Vinted behaves like in France, they will cry. Besides, I was wondering if in Spain and Italy, professional Vinties are obliged to register as professionals because I don’t…
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Le Bon Coin in my area is a 13% commission which drops to 9% if you take the subscription to have the e-shop + €25 for a boost = €106/month.
If it allows me to secure my business and not say « in 1 month, I might get banned », I’ll pay with my eyes closed.
leboncoin will ban you if you sell as a pro without a pro account 
me too also message received but not restricted but I am on a pro account
ok. I didn’t know about the games
I don’t know what your sector is, but I agree. When I was a real estate agent (a long time ago), I paid my subscription and I worked. With Vinted, even by paying for the showcase, we tremble at every step. Total insecurity. For me, it’s incomprehensible. I don’t understand their strategy. Well, unless they are preparing for their stock market launch. But their reputation is suffering from their current behavior.
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I don’t sell on Le Bon Coin. But if this continues, I’ll think about it.
But I would have to pay a subscription on Vinted to secure, have real visibility and dedicated tools (automatic invoicing, stock management, republications like on eBay…), I’ll take it right away.
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personally, recent events have pushed us to make the switch. I hope to be able to stay on Vinted for as long as possible, but I cannot rely solely on Vinted as a sales platform, which has an extremely unstable moderation policy.
but so much, I pay directly too
Second-hand has always existed. In the Middle Ages, there were already people who dealt in luxury with the robes of the nobility, which were mended and resold to affluent but lower classes. (We can compare this to those who deal in luxury today).
Second-hand markets existed at the end of the 19th century, with rag-and-bone men who already salvaged and resold directly, flea markets, antique dealers, car markets, housing, various collections, this has always existed. People in the 70s wanted the 30s, today the 80s, etc. Well, on the other hand, with today’s crap, there’s a risk of not having much in 40 years. haha
With the internet and eBay, there was enormous growth from the second half of the 90s. I started selling second-hand items in the early 2000s, and it worked very well, the golden age until… around 2014. You put jeans up for auction for €1, they went up to €30. Everything sold, everything, books, keychains, VHS tapes, light bulbs, everything went.
There were 80,000 professionals on eBay in 2009. (They communicated about it when they targeted professionals, whereas originally, like Vinted, it was from individual to individual), and this was also the beginning of a long decline. But let’s not forget that eBay remains superior to Vinted, but 40 times inferior to Amazon.
And I’m sure it already existed in Roman times. Nothing new, and certainly not a nascent market, but on the contrary, a market that is reaching saturation, we all notice it here, otherwise our numbers would be increasing.
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Same here. I’m setting up a company, hiring, getting office space. Instead, I’m keeping track of everything and trying to stay under the radar, like all of us here.
Ebay also has its restrictions, but they are legitimate.
I have the impression that in Spain and Italy, the obligations are completely different. In summary, that there are no obligations. I’ve never seen a Vinted pro account in these countries. Unless I’m mistaken, of course.
Do you see many professionals in Vinted categories on LBC? Because in my area, it’s extremely rare and doesn’t seem to work.
In my category, I see two, and I’m not actively looking for them. One is a fairly large seller of used books, Ammareal, who joined LBC a year ago. I thought they would be followed by their peers and that it would devastate the platform, but no.
And there are professionals posing as individuals, especially a comic book specialist, who lists 10,000 ads in a month, then gets banned, and comes back under another name. This one particularly intrigues me because they sell comics for only 8% less than new, a difference that, once shipping costs are added, isn’t enough to make the book cheaper than buying directly from a bookstore. They probably get the books by buying them from publishers’ unsold stock, for example, just before they’re pulped, because everything they sell is new.
Otherwise, I don’t recognize the professional sellers, even small ones, who have their shops on Rakuten / Abebooks / eBay on LBC.
I also specify that it’s a couple of years old, there was no dac7, no control, and therefore no obligation to be a pro on eBay even if you had 3000 items online, and the « problem » was that many had pro accounts without having the status, on paper it changed nothing, apart from accepting returns. no payment delay, no unfavorable algorithm
you could be paid by different means, paypal, check, cash, stamps etc.
10% commission on the total was correct, but when they increased it, it was no longer profitable, 20% on turnover is just monstrous, and all those who applied it saw a decline.
Entrepreneurship in France …
It doesn’t surprise me. LBC already has rather uncompetitive pricing conditions when you switch to professional and, moreover, it’s not certain that the Le Bon Coin clientele is hyper attracted.
yes, that’s more or less what I was thinking.
eBay, I still have the impression that it was much easier 10 years ago. I would put things up for sale and they would sell quite quickly and without being sold off cheaply.
it depends on the country, in France they have collapsed.
The problem they have is that they are caught in a pincer movement. Basically, there are two models: marketplaces and second-hand sales platforms. And they are doing a mix of the two, the problem being that they are less effective on both. On one hand, Amazon crushes them with its marketplace, and on the other hand, Vinted has taken over the second-hand market, especially from individuals.
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