Request to go pro

Hello,

I received the famous message from Vinted last night indicating that my sales seem to resemble professional selling and that they therefore want me to go pro.

I have a few questions about this, as I understand that many people are encountering problems.

Firstly, does this message mean that if I continue to sell on this account, it will be blocked, or is it simply a warning?

Secondly, if I go pro, I understand that there are about 25% fees when operating as a micro-enterprise. I’m wondering if it’s still worth it, knowing that I don’t do this professionally; it’s just a salary supplement for me.

Furthermore, I must say that the steps involved put me off a bit, given the experiences I’ve read about on this forum.

Thanks in advance

:slightly_smiling_face:

Micro-entrepreneur fees are only 12%, and this can be very interesting from a tax perspective through the 1% tax on turnover.

On the merits: being « pro » according to Vinted has nothing to do with being a micro-entrepreneur for URSSAF and tax authorities. You can perfectly well be a micro-entrepreneur to avoid the risk of a tax adjustment, without Vinted considering you professional. There is no risk of « fines » or « tax adjustments. »

In general opinion, switching to « pro » on Vinted has no advantages, only disadvantages: the « pro » tag puts off some users; the payment period is extended to 14 days; the return conditions are more favorable to buyers; visibility would be worse (but on this last point, the search engine algorithm has particularly shone through its instability).

Regarding Vinted’s warning: can you reveal how many sales you had, in terms of revenue and number of transactions?

I also received this warning in early September. Since then, I have not added any more items to my account, I am just rotating the existing ones. My catalog is gradually decreasing. My sales volume has been significantly reduced. I hope this will bring me back below the alert threshold.

First, thank you very much for taking the time to reply.

Regarding my sales numbers, I have 1300 reviews and a total turnover of €10,500 since registration (this account is barely 2 years old).

If I understood your message correctly, I am therefore obliged to become a professional seller if I wish to continue selling at this rate and add new products?

Furthermore, this is my second Vinted account, the first one having been blocked for the same reason :sweat_smile:

This new account is not in my name but in my father’s name (who has no use for Vinted), so I imagine that if I wish to become a professional seller, the micro-enterprise would also have to be in his name? This, in this situation, becomes more problematic.

You also mention hoping to get back under the threshold, is there a specific threshold?

Thank you in advance :grin:

The first question to answer is what is the nature of your sales? buying/reselling or really emptying closets? If it’s the first case, then yes, there will come a time when you’ll have to go through with it.

Hello, thank you for your message, indeed, in a very pleasant tone​:sweat_smile:

To answer your question, it’s a mix of both, about 50/50.

Part of it is buying and selling, and part is clearing out, especially Blu-Rays and board games, as I’m passionate about them.

No intention of being unpleasant, it’s just that it’s the first piece of data needed to be able to answer you since the answer leads to two different routes.

@William: I got the alert when I was at almost exactly the same level as you. The €10,000 threshold must be a factor.

Again, in my opinion, there is no link between the « pro » status according to Vinted and that of the tax authorities. If you put the DAC7 in your name on your father’s account, you are compliant with the tax authorities. And everything can be declared to URSSAF / tax authorities under a single self-entrepreneur status.

By the way, I would be curious to know if Vinted detects that two DAC7s refer to the same tax identification number.

Regarding Vinted’s thresholds: there is no reverse engineering possible to know them.

impossible to know and a lot of randomness.
For me, it was at €7,000 in turnover that they forced me to switch, but on the other hand, I had done it in two months. But it wasn’t a problem since I was already registered as a micro-enterprise on my end.

Thank you for the response.

Do you confirm that, in micro, all taxes amount to approximately 11%, as stated above?

According to the source, the figure is different.

So I can continue with this account, which is not in my name, while creating a micro-enterprise in my name, on which the turnover will be declared, is that correct?

I want to avoid making a mistake​:sweat_smile:

12.3%, 13.3% if you opt for withholding tax :blush:

To that, you add the CFE to pay at the end of the year and that’s it!

In reality, it’s far from being as complicated as we think. I hate paperwork and honestly, it’s going well.

And you can create a pro account even if your old account was blocked. That’s what happened to me too and no problem opening a pro account in my name! On the other hand, I got a new phone number and a new business bank account, so a different IBAN.

Yes, I don’t see how it could be simpler. I’m still learning things where I complicated them (like the recipe book where you can just enter the daily revenue if there are no items over €76).

Thank you for your response,

Indeed, the paperwork is what puts me off the most. Thanks for the info​:folded_hands:

I read that you need to note down each transaction with the name, item, amount, etc. for each sale. Your message is reassuring!

What worries me is spending much more time managing all this, to ultimately earn less in the end.

As indicated above, this is a supplement for me, so I don’t have hours to dedicate to paperwork.

For your information, how much time do you spend on it per week/month to give me an idea?

Thanks in advance :slightly_smiling_face:

To be more precise: also check if you are eligible for ACRE, and if so, apply for it when creating your micro-enterprise. This will bring contributions to about 6% in the first year.

Here is the simulation in a steady state, beyond the first year:

It’s not the paperwork that takes time, if you’re a sole proprietor.

For my part, what takes the most time is posting the ads: photo, uploading to the computer and possible cropping, creating the ads (entering the book title, about ten clicks for all the fields, knowing that I have a semi-automatic description filling system).

I see this very simply from the stock that is waiting to be processed. While I don’t have a stock of unmade/unshipped packages, that’s at zero every evening.

It’s hard to answer you, it really depends on the number of items you sell :sweat_smile: Many people here use VintedCRM to save time on everything related to invoicing, etc. And from what I understand, Clemz will soon allow it too, so it’s a considerable time saver! You just have to pay a subscription but I don’t know how much it costs :blush: There’s a thread about it on the forum!

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Thank you for all the information, it’s very informative, I’ll take good note of it!

If you have anything else to add on this subject, don’t hesitate, all information is good to take​:+1: