I had a question about professional and personal accounts. From how many euros per year do you think one should switch to a professional account?
as soon as you buy to resell.
Okay. Thank you for your answer, as I buy a lot and don’t keep things for long, so I resell a lot personally on Vinted.
yes but consequently they are personal items? Basically you use these items and resell them afterwards or do you buy them to resell them? From a strictly legal point of view, if you buy and resell with the aim of making a profit, it’s from the first euro (we agree that almost everyone waits a bit)
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I do not buy to resell, but I buy a lot for my family and myself, and my loved ones also give me a lot. Rather than throw things away, that’s why my wardrobe is quite large and I was wondering about the status.
(This has been said before, simple repetition)
Do not confuse Vinted’s « pro status, » which only makes sense for Vinted, and declaring income generated from buying/reselling to the tax authorities. You can perfectly well avoid being « pro » on Vinted while declaring your income as a self-employed person or otherwise to be compliant with tax authorities. Only the tax authorities have investigative powers.
Vinted forced my hand to go pro. Since then, apart from waiting 15 days for my money and losing 12% of my income, I don’t see any difference lol…
Vinted also sent me a notification in September, but nothing since then. In the meantime, I developed a second account. The first one nevertheless saw its sales continue at a good level, at least for a few weeks, without the notification returning.
But I feel like it’s hanging by a thread.
How do you handle the other account? With the IP address, they can figure that out quickly, I think.
Same here, I’m being extra careful now. I post about 3 times in the morning and the same in the evening to space things out. I try not to post the same types of items all the time and I download my data regularly to see if it flags me or not. I’m crossing my fingers, it’s annoying but I don’t want to trigger the bot again (it’s annoying, lol).
The issue of a shared IP address between two accounts, a problem that greatly agitated Vintees a few years ago, has been resolved. Absolutely no worries.
So it’s reselling personal belongings. So legally there is no limit. Imagine someone who has collected toys, comics, or video games for decades, etc. He can have thousands of valuable items to resell, that doesn’t make him a professional seller. On the other hand, Vinted is random about this and can be annoying.
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However, it does make sense for the Directorate General for Competition, Consumer Affairs and Fraud Prevention. It is forbidden and potentially punishable to hide the information from the customer that they are buying from a professional. While the risk is low for small sellers, it theoretically exists.
Thank you very much for your answers. It is a pleasure to have feedback from your experiences and knowledge.
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Yes, that’s very much appreciated, it’s a nice change from the preachy people on fb lol.
Thank you for reminding us of this DGCCRF risk. I believe it is non-existent if one sells used items that cannot be confused with new ones. As you rightly say, one can accumulate tens of thousands of books/records/DVDs over a lifetime, or that of a parent whose house is inherited upon death. I don’t see how the DGCxxx would tell the difference…
It’s the same, in a professional capacity you also have different obligations than an individual, like the warranty for example (one year + another year if a hidden defect is proven), so by being an individual this right is masked. After I mention it, but I’ve never known or read anyone who has had a problem with it.
In the case of an individual, it is indeed very complicated. On the other hand, a person who is registered as a professional reseller can raise suspicions. Imagine someone who is properly registered for distance selling, who has an eBay account with 10,000 listings while claiming it’s only personal resale; that could raise eyebrows.
It’s not up to her to make the difference, it’s up to you to prove it. 
and if they decide that’s the case, good luck.
I see someone selling thousands of items, already I wonder where they find the time, because full-time it’s already difficult. There are limits. an example: a car enthusiast, I buy and resell many, ok. Well, there’s a limit, 9 per year, which is already huge, and allows many to supplement their income, without making it a professional activity to live fully from it. You’ll explain that you change cars every month for pleasure.
They are not that stupid, the money you earn, you will spend it, in VAT, in gasoline, to keep the real economy going, which will be rethought, it’s a loop. So the loss is minimal. it becomes more of a problem when, on the side, some receive social benefits, from CAF, unemployment, etc., and you are doing casual buy-and-sell. you receive benefits to which you are not entitled because you have a commercial activity, without declaring it. Now, that’s another matter. (And I completely understand the difficulties encountered by many people, but the state has no morals)
for the rest, selling as an individual while being professional is the same, it’s a mistake. we are all happy to have protection, a withdrawal period when buying, a guarantee if we buy a vehicle even second-hand, otherwise everyone sells anything, and has no responsibility, it’s an open door to all abuses. For many, you surely didn’t sell at that time, but the withdrawal period was only 7 days, I can tell you that it’s short when you have a problem. making it 14 days has increased buyer confidence.
For the rest, it’s not charges, it’s a social contribution: here too, we are happy to have social security, aren’t we?
So yes, as an independent, we are not well off compared to what we pay…
it is above all the regularity of income that will cause a stir, moreover DAC7 is intended to analyze this (we will see its usefulness in a few years). A collector can easily have a one-off sales spike. I have already seen entire collections resold for sums that allow one to buy a house.