(I’m using a micro-business) If I understand correctly, we are obliged to issue an invoice but not necessarily send it to the client unless they request it. My question concerns shipping costs: should they be included in the invoices? (In my opinion, no.) (For example, here is what Rakuten gives me as a document even though the shipping costs are prepaid (same situation as on Vinted), they ask me to re-invoice if I understand the image correctly), and what do we do with the extra cents on Vinted? Do we declare them on the sale of the product concerned? And the same for the recipe book?
In Vinted’s terms and conditions, it is stated that shipping costs are charged to the buyer by the seller.
Regarding the additional cents collected, this is the VAT paid by Vinted on shipping costs. Logically, it must be returned to the tax authorities via the professional area during the annual declaration.
We read everything and its opposite on this subject, for example that by being subject one would only declare, whereas by being liable one would pay taxes. We must not expect a definitive answer from the services concerned given their incompetence.
You are exempt from VAT on your sales, as long as you do not exceed the basic exemption thresholds => Warning: exempt does not mean not subject!
VAT on shipping costs (we already talked about it on another topic) = VAT due by Vinted in France, which refunds it through us… So they pay you the cents: which you must give back to the tax authorities on their behalf, because they do not belong to you => to be declared and paid on form 3310-CA3 on the line « Purchases of services carried out from a taxable person not established in France » (you must request an intra-community VAT number if you don’t already have one)
For the invoice: save your details in the Clemz sales tracking settings, it generates the invoice and sends it automatically without you having to do anything, so no more hesitation on this point…
In addition, you can extract the sales tracking to facilitate your declarations: URSSAF and the one for VAT…
So when I declare to URSSAF, do I need to declare the selling price + shipping costs (which I never received and which have already been invoiced by Vinted in the sense that they refund me the VAT)?
If I show the shipping costs on my invoice, it means I have to declare them, I think.
I am not in micro but in logic, to be confirmed by others in micro: you only declare your own sales (your turnover) to URSSAF, the cents on shipping costs are for the tax authorities or SIE (company tax service).
However, if you have never received them via Vinted, it means you are on a personal profile and not a professional one… Am I wrong? And it’s not very complicated to check: is the money from a completed transaction paid into your wallet after 2 or 14 days?
When I say « never received, » I’m talking about shipping costs, not the 0.50 cents. I am indeed under the micro-enterprise scheme with a business account recently, but for the cents, I will follow what has already been said in the forum to refund them,
I will try to contact URSSAF to find out if prepaid shipping costs need to be declared.
In my opinion, if they are not to be declared, I don’t see why I should put them on the invoice. I saw on the forum someone say that only the amount of sales was reported to the tax authorities by Vinted.
Okay, so it’s normal: Vinted only gives sellers the cents for shipping costs so that we take care of paying them instead of them.
For URSSAF (like taxes): according to the representative, the answer changes because it’s a rather complex special case for them (we don’t fit into their little boxes lol). They might answer that everything you receive must be declared, so you need to specify that it’s not « received » in the strict sense because the money doesn’t belong to you, it’s like a transfer so that they are tax compliant (we, the sellers, are like an escrow account for them).
=> to be declared and paid on form 3310-CA3 on the line « Purchases of services carried out from a taxable person not established in France » (you must request an intra-community VAT number if you don’t already have one)