PPWR law passing on August 12th?

Hello; has anyone checked this PPWR law story that’s coming into effect on August 12th?? :grimacing:

There are videos everywhere right now that are scary, like « administrative hell for your packages »… So I spent some time looking into it because I sell quite a bit second-hand, and in reality it’s much less dire than what people are saying on TikTok.

This article clearly explains who is REALLY concerned on August 12th (spoiler: if you just reuse your cardboard or kraft shipping boxes, you don’t have to do anything that day), and what will happen later (labeling in 2028, void rule in 2030). The full schedule and sources are in there, it reassured me a lot:

Honestly, read it before panicking like on TikTok :sweat_smile: what do you think?

that it’s another overly complicated system unsuited for small businesses who won’t understand anything, or will do it their own way anyway, or give up out of frustration. Another thing churned out by technocrats who haven’t bothered to differentiate between Amazon and Gertrude’s second-hand shop.

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enormously seem to already be discovering the EPR in 2026.. starting from there, they are drowning when told to take action for each country, without a single point of contact and with different rules depending on each country. it feels a bit like « we give you free movement of goods but now pay ». ecology being obviously a lie, but that’s another subject..

Still advertising for your website. Especially since the summary is « none of your business »

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Look, there he is again, Thibault :joy: :joy:

Even if it’s done to advertise, can’t we blame him for not creating content for his shop? :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:
It’s needed today for SEO.
So the slightest excuse to create content is fair game :wink:

Now it’s true that if the conclusion is « We’re not concerned »… ppppfff… Go on TikTok… and stop bothering us :joy: :joy: (:winking_face_with_tongue: )

Some spend their summer enjoying themselves, others are bitter behind their screens, criticizing everything. The French mentality in all its splendor.

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:joy: :joy: :joy:
He’s not criticizing, he’s giving an opinion! :wink:
Especially since he’s not entirely wrong about the outcome :joy:

but you haven’t understood, just say it’s your article instead of always pretending, hey, you found a nice article to read. you want clicks, I understand, but you’re on a forum where there are not only noobs :wink:

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Friptadium rings a bell. Posts on this forum a few months ago? A Vinted account?

Why choose when you can have both? :face_savoring_food:

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That’s exactly what I was able to tell my wife when she discovered I had a mistress :joy: :joy:
« Why choose when you can have both » :joy:

Well, it ended with a slap :joy: :joy: and I fired the mistress :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Feedback is a gift, as they say in strategy consulting. You first have to take factual criticism as constructive (I’m not talking about insults, obviously).

Ah, monogamous people, they create so many problems for themselves…

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It’s still good wind, all these things. It advances an ecological argument when the first approach to being truly ecological would be to reuse what already exists.

In fact, it would be enough to put taxes on the sale of packaging, and those who reuse their packaging or collect it would not pay them since they are not putting new ones into circulation.

We still have companies that buy boxes to send things when they fill dumpsters with boxes from their suppliers. But instead of looking into that, we prefer to churn out a convoluted system that will just annoy small businesses.

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that’s the most annoying part, the shitty hypocrisy they sell us, not to mention the guilt-tripping, the injustice of double standards, etc.

As if we weren’t already paying for household waste. When will there be a tax on the air we breathe when we exercise?

Like the right to pollute and all that crap that makes you sick. but since we have no power, we always get screwed..

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I vote gametoysretro in 2027.

Without having delved deeper into the subject, I would first hypothesize that the teams that designed this regulation are not idiots, and that there may be reasons for arriving at this solution rather than another. But I haven’t looked into it further.

make money by taxing free trade and pursue Soros’s 2030 agenda.

Basically, no, since they normally conduct studies to « hatch » regulations.:roll_eyes:

Now for this law, the most affected are the companies that manufacture packaging.
They will have to comply with (new) rules on manufacturing.
There are also (I think) food manufacturers and distributors who will be really impacted.

They will stop churning out gigantic cake boxes that give the impression they are full, when we end up with 6 tiny cakes that can be eaten in 3 seconds.

However, there will be negative effects, such as the excuse to increase prices (again) because they have to invest in new machinery.:face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Or the individual sugar packets for coffee will disappear…
I don’t care, I drink it without sugar :joy: :joy:

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Hello,

I just read the very first post, but it also applies to individuals, like if we sold a product, but we use a recycled box (another order we placed), and the box (the only one we have) is not the ideal size, what happens? (the question I had when reading your post).

But I asked chatGPT (yes), and it has a mix on TikTok:

:bust_in_silhouette: Individual occasionally reselling their belongings → this is not the scenario the videos present as a new administrative obligation for every package.

  • :convenience_store: Business / professional seller regularly shipping products → here, the PPWR can indeed create obligations.
  • :package: Already existing box that you reuse → the very logic of the regulation encourages the reuse of packaging; it absolutely does not say “every individual must have a box exactly the size of the product”.

And the famous “50% empty space”?

This is where TikTok mixes many things up.

The rule on the empty space rate does not mean that from today your Vinted box must be perfectly adjusted.

It concerns economic operators using transport packaging for products sold via certain forms of e-commerce, with a later deadline. This is not a general obligation imposed today on an individual recycling an old box to send their sweater sold on Vinted.