I tried your technique for a -40% 
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You learn by doingā¦
Apparently, starting your message with Ā« Hello Ā» and ending it with Ā« Sincerely Ā» is no longer polite enough 
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I think itās more Ā« Too low to be taken seriously Ā» some people donāt take much to feel frustrated but hey, thatās how it is! 
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Iāll put this:
Hello 
Thank you for your offer, itās nice, but itās a bit too low for me. If you can go up to itās okay on my end. Have a nice day!
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Today, I decided to accept a -40%. It ended up like this:
Since when can they make this kind of offer?
Yes, because basically when the minimum price is accepted, the initial price becomes this new price again, so the buyer can lower this new price by 40%. Completely absurd. Yes, after when itās like that, a refusal and you block the member, you shouldnāt overthink it for one buyer when there are thousands of other potential buyers.
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The counteroffer after accepting the previous one, a great negotiation strategy that might be the best way to alienate me. Besides, when the buyer wants to go back to the accepted offer, I tell him to get lost.
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@Astrid Thatās the last straw, your thing! Always more!
I admit Iām really fed up with offers galore. So much so that I end up responding absurdly. Now, when Iām really in a bad mood, I make counter-offers higher than the initial price (instead of a cent less).
Itās not great for sales.
Yesterday, a Vintie made me an offer of 6 euros on an item for 8 euros, not even 2 minutes after it was re-listed (without a greeting, obviously). I was coming home from work, I was exhausted, it annoyed me. I counter-offered at 10 euros. Her response: Ā« ??? Ā»
I explained cordially, she responded a little less cordially, I ended the conversation by telling her I was delighted to see we agreed not to do business together. She blocked me. I did the same. I hope she doesnāt generate vengeful reports.
I must admit that if it had been another day, I would have simply refused her offer or offered a cent less.
When I receive a notification with Ā« So-and-so makes you an offer, Ā» Iām in Ā« oh f*** Ā» mode with the impression of a waste of time, whereas before, I was more in Ā« oh great, a potential sale! Ā» mode.
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Hello - Yes, itās indecent sometimes. Everyone feels obliged to negotiate. At first, I would put the lowest price I was willing to accept, now you absolutely have to add a margin for negotiation. Recently, an interesting non-fiction book for which I was asking the astronomical sum of 3 euros. I was offered 2 euros for it. No thank you. Iām not going out for that little.
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Itās very simple for me:
I set a high base price (not too high, though, to generate interest) and then I set a minimum negotiation margin. That way, itās simple: if the offer is within my range, I accept; if itās not within my range, I counter-offer. Then I donāt stress about it, telling myself someone else will eventually buy it, maybe even at the full initial price.
If youāre struggling with this whole indecent offer thing, honestly, your days on Vinted must be hell
Strangely, these offers at -40% without a Ā« Hello Ā» only come to me from French people, and sometimes from Italiansā¦
Germans, Dutch, and Spanish people generally only negotiate the amount of shipping costs, which is ā¬4-5 on a basket of ā¬30-35, which remains acceptable.
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No, my life is not hell because I donāt rely on it to live. It just annoys me to the highest degree. If you accept an offer for 2 euros, this buyer will think Ā« I should have offered 1 euro Ā» and thatās what she will do next time, like in the example given by Astrid.
I was saying that humorously!
I myself am not counting on it, but at first I also got annoyed by low offers, and over time I ended up changing my strategy. I raised my prices, set a minimum acceptable price, and if a buyer isnāt happy, well, thatās their problem, someone else will come along and buy it.
To change things up, an anecdote as a buyer. Iām looking for a pair of sneakers for one of my children. I find several, I choose one and I make an offer at -30%, i.e. ā¬14 instead of ā¬20. One of the sellers replies Ā« the price is not negotiable Ā». I donāt insist.
A few hours later, this seller offers me ā¬18 himself. It was late in the evening, so I postponed confirming the purchase until the next day.
The next morning, without any exchange having taken place in the meantime, he spontaneously lowered his offer to ā¬15. And I bought them, obviously.
Iāll let you draw the moral of the story.
Yes, I understood it was humor. Good job.
Fauna: In your opinion, what is the moral? That sellers want to sell at any price? It is true that for clothes and shoes there is a choice. For other collectible items, itās different. There are resellers on the lookout for beautiful pieces.
I donāt know what the moral is. Maybe since there are individuals who lower prices themselves, one might as well try their luck systematically.
After all, you donāt need to look any further, itās like a flea market, we have the possibility to negotiate, people negotiate, itās part of human nature, look at historyā¦ different culturesā¦ and also look at it physically, many people like to negotiate, so imagine being able to do it on top of that behind a screen without having to show yourselfā¦ on top of that on a platform that makes this thing possible, that trivializes it and that has currently become normalā¦
For me, as soon as you have the possibility to negotiate, I know very well that the majority of people try their luck, then like any good merchant, itās up to us to set the limits of what is acceptable or not, and as they say, no one is holding a knife to our throat to accept.
Afterwards, itās true that in certain niches we also deal with clearance salesā¦ garage salesā¦ bulk purchases, we just keep one or two interesting products, the rest we sell offā¦ others, non-professionals, even if itās to earn ā¬1 or ā¬2, jump at the opportunity (without forgetting that they have no expenses, nothingā¦).
In short, itās Ā« annoying Ā» but thatās how it is, you have to build your own way of doing business and as they say, if people ask for -40%, itās because some sellers accept -40%.
On my side, Iāve embraced this, I inflate the initial price a bit, then I focus on products with a good profitability rate, so basically, our base price is on average x4/x5, so I have a good margin of maneuver for offers.
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This reminds me of auctions.
Starting bid for an item: ā¬1000.
Nobody.
Reduced to 900, nobody, 800 nobody.
Someone makes an offer of 500, the auctioneer accepts, then an offer of 600, hop hop and it often ends up much higher than the starting price.
Itās statistical; if you live in France, 70 to 80% of your customers will be French, so they are the ones who will send you more offers.
Iāve also raised prices a bit, but since my concept is already low prices, Iām probably the lowest on Vinted, so negotiations are usually reasonable. Of course, there are always 40% offers, sometimes I accept them because since I set a floor price of ā¬10 and sometimes the item isnāt worth it, Iām betting on a 40% offer to sell it.
For favorites, I no longer send them to my followers. Favorites to followers are great if, in my opinion, you donāt have a hyper-niche shop, a more generalist shop for books, varied clothes.
If, on the contrary, you are positioned in a small niche (all my items fit into 3 categories), followers donāt need to receive offers to buy, they will make them themselves and write to me, because they follow the shop specialized in this area, and therefore generally donāt look elsewhere. I understood this through experience and also from testimonials from followers who repeatedly told me that it was annoying to receive an offer every time. they receive new items and thatās great.
Same for relisting, I do less of it, for the same reason. my followers have already looked most of the time. Seeing relisted items will drive them away, and concretely it translates into a loss of 5 to 10 followers with each relisting.
For new customers, and to always stay well-placed in the algorithm, you need to publish new items every day. What needs to be evaluated is the average number of new items you can manage, more or less: 2.5, 10, 20, 30 per day. and stick to it. by playing with drafts on days when you are absent.
I could add some nuances depending on the item or the time of year because my avatarviewer is not the same, even if I stay in the same niche.
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