Hello, I am not a professional seller, but I have made 124 sales. Under €2,000. Last year it appeared on my tax return, this year it doesn’t. Is it the same for you? Is there anything to do? Normally Vinted transmits it automatically, right? Thank you.
Hi @violona
So you are a private individual, you have made €2000 over the year.
1 You do not have to declare it to the tax authorities (You must exceed €5000)
2 Vinted does not declare the sales you have made, but will block you when you exceed a certain threshold (Moreover, for 124 sales, you must have received a message indicating that you should switch to Pro)
In correction, I believe these amounts of €5,000 and €2,000 alone do not exist for the tax authorities. If the activity is professional, it must be declared.
Apart from that, indeed, I did not see the pre-declaration of sales on Vinted (nor on Rakuten) in my tax return. Only the LBC figure appears. So I added the sales from other sites manually. I simply reported the amount declared as a sole proprietor.
Well, actually, and fundamentally, an individual should not make it a professional activity, that’s mainly it.
There’s a difference between selling your own clothes or those of your family, and buying to resell.
Buying to resell = professional activity
To protect professionals, it would be time for a real difference to exist.
Besides, when you hear individuals proudly admitting to having multiple personal accounts and doing business with them, they should be careful… The tax authorities will catch up eventually when they’re on your back
(then they’ll cry)
For the €2,000 (source on the government website).
Platforms do not report if it’s less than €2,000.
However, if it’s more than €2,000, they are obligated to do so.
The €5,000 threshold is per item and not a cumulative total.
Hello,
Yes, this is normal in some cases. DAC7 does not mean that it will necessarily appear automatically on your pre-filled tax return each year. Vinted does transmit certain information to the tax authorities, but its display can vary from one year to another depending on transmission deadlines or tax processing.
With 124 sales and less than €2,000, if it’s the resale of personal items without real profit, you are normally still considered a private individual. Below the DAC7 thresholds, there is generally nothing special to do.
However, keep your Vinted annual report and your proof just in case the administration asks for justification later.
From what I understand, it’s by objects: if you exceed 5,000, you have to declare it and pay, but otherwise, if you’re not a professional, you don’t pay anything (AI and .gouv sites for sources).
Be aware, it’s not that simple. The €5,000 threshold does not mean that any activity below it is not taxable. If you simply empty your closet and resell your personal belongings at a loss, there is generally nothing to pay. However, if you buy items with the intention of reselling them for a profit, even on Vinted, this can be considered a commercial activity that must be declared. The main criterion is not only the amount, but also the nature of the activity.
You can even say that IT IS a commercial activity…
You buy to resell, so it’s commerce…
You resell your own clothes… it’s to make a little extra money per month…
So I buy a used book, read it, and resell it for a higher price. Is that a commercial activity? NO.
In reality, the line is blurry. The line between « clearing out my attic » and « doing business » depends on several cumulative or non-cumulative criteria:
The usual and repeated nature: selling regularly, over time, is a strong indicator of professional activity, unlike a one-off sale of personal items.
So if you buy and resell minimally, no, it’s not a professional activity, because it’s not repeated.
The DCA7 directive clarifies things, since platforms are required to provide information to the administration for 30 sales/year and €2,000.
So if you buy and resell on Vinted for 29 sales/year, and €1,999, OK, you’re evading taxes, but the administration doesn’t care, it ignores you.
So we need to stop scaring the little guy who wants to get started!
And even if you exceed those limits, it doesn’t mean you’ll face a tax audit; it means the administration is informed. And there comes a point where, if you push it, they might come back to you for explanations, justifications.
It’s up to you to decide when the time is right to go professional.
The real problem is that many confuse DAC7 with the definition of a commercial activity.
The thresholds of 30 sales and €2,000 are for the automatic transmission of information by platforms. They do not, in themselves, define what is or is not a professional activity.
Someone emptying their closet is obviously not a merchant. On the other hand, someone who regularly buys with the aim of reselling for a profit is already in a commercial logic, even if they are below the DAC7 thresholds.
Ultimately, it is not the figure of 29 sales or €1,999 that changes the nature of the activity. It is primarily the intention, repetition, and organization of buying and reselling. :::
Regardless, below 30 online sales per year and less than €2,000 (this is on one platform, you can combine several platforms), you fly under the radar of the administration, so the question of whether it’s a professional activity or not doesn’t even arise since the activity doesn’t exist in the eyes of the administration!
Therefore, the person below these thresholds doesn’t have to ask themselves any questions.
Exactly..
It’s the intention to buy, in order to resell, that matters…
Imagine a family with 5 children, who don’t throw anything away… accumulating for years (even decades) in the attic, in the cupboards, etc…
The children have grown up, even left home, the mother says to herself, I’m going to sell the hundreds of clothes from her adult children to earn a little extra money (and perhaps keep busy), make space… etc…
This has nothing to do with those who will buy Boxes, bales (90% of them Grade A
) or at a flea market to then resell…
That’s where the difference lies, and Vinted’s Bots won’t do that…
Yes, and there are also intermediate cases.
Someone can accumulate for 20 years without ever intending to resell, then one day find themselves with an attic, garage, or basement full of items that have increased in value. The fact that they make a capital gain on resale does not automatically turn that person into a merchant.
This is precisely why there isn’t a single magic criterion. The administration looks at the overall situation: the origin of the goods, the initial intention, the frequency of sales, and the organization put in place.
It is often the accumulation of indicators that makes the difference, not a single element taken in isolation.
With regard to the initial question, this individual is nevertheless required to complete the DAC7 form.
